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in foreign policy you start a war. >> a familiar face with very wise words. let's get right to our panel. in washington pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post" eugene robinson and michael o'hanlon, senior fellow with the 21st century defense initiative. two men better equipped for today i could not find. eugene, you have been a foreign correspondent in places as far afield as argentina and europe. you know the middle east. mitt romney says he wants to arm the syrian rebels with serious amounts of military hardware. i ask you, eugene, is america ready and willing to start a proxy war with iran on the road to damascus? >> well, good question, and first of all, i think you have to ask given the way romney has changed his policy in various areas, you have to ask is he serious about that. but if he is, that's the one sort of bit of news that came out of his speech today. it's not as if we're not already at least assisting in the arming of the rebels. there was an intelligence finding by president obama that said we could give covert aid essentia
in foreign policy you start a war. >> a familiar face with very wise words. let's get right to our panel. in washington pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post" eugene robinson and michael o'hanlon, senior fellow with the 21st century defense initiative. two men better equipped for today i could not find. eugene, you have been a foreign correspondent in places as far afield as argentina and europe. you know the middle east. mitt romney says he wants to arm the...
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and he trails the president by 6% on foreign policy. for decades, republicans have had the edge over democrats when it comes to national security but thanks to this president's strength and romney's weakness, that trend is over. joining me now is richard wolffe, vice president and executive editor of msnbc.com and an msnbc political analyst and brian, a senior fellow at the american for progress. thanks to both of you for being here. >> thanks, reverend. >> richard, let me start with you. what is the biggest failure in romney's foreign policy attacks? >> the biggest problem mitt romney has is not debating the president, it's debating himself. this is all consistency of a split pea soup. is he for mission creep and won't set an end date. he's on every side of his foreign policy position but even worse than that, even worse than the whole who is advising him question, his basic world view is outlined in his foreign policy speech today is, you're with us or against us. does that sound familiar? the world is divided into liberty and tire ra
and he trails the president by 6% on foreign policy. for decades, republicans have had the edge over democrats when it comes to national security but thanks to this president's strength and romney's weakness, that trend is over. joining me now is richard wolffe, vice president and executive editor of msnbc.com and an msnbc political analyst and brian, a senior fellow at the american for progress. thanks to both of you for being here. >> thanks, reverend. >> richard, let me start...
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president obama's foreign policy in the middle east. at one point some two dozen capitols, storming embassies. iran closer to a nuclear bomb. you were talking about the bloodshed in syria. what governor romney is saying is rather than make analysis of tactical developments we have to step back and say had the administration been an observer of events rather than a shaper of them. has their foreign policy which had us taking a back step. we talk about a pivot to asia, diminished our policy to protect our interests and those of the allies in the region. >> let me ask about syria. i wasn't sure if governor romney is saying he would have u.s. heavy weapons arms directly to the rebels or he would work through the saudis or others in the region who want to arm the rebels. how is he different. >> what governor romney said is if we don't reach out and find the responsible and moderate forces within the opposition movement, they would be left stranded alone and isolated -- >> hillary clinton had meeting after meeting -- you know the secretary of
president obama's foreign policy in the middle east. at one point some two dozen capitols, storming embassies. iran closer to a nuclear bomb. you were talking about the bloodshed in syria. what governor romney is saying is rather than make analysis of tactical developments we have to step back and say had the administration been an observer of events rather than a shaper of them. has their foreign policy which had us taking a back step. we talk about a pivot to asia, diminished our policy to...
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foreign policy. there doesn't seem to be a lot of daylight on fundamental issues. >> this is an important point. actually mitt romney is a bigamistry to us when it comes to foreign policy. in part because republicans are at war amongst themselves. they are not just fighting with barack obama and democrats over what kind of foreign policy e they should have. on the one hand within romney's campaign you have neocon advisers who represent the soul and spirit of bush and cheney. you have tea party types who say let's focus on rebuilding our economy and america at home. and a third category of classic republican realists, if you will, who are more of the liberal internationalist variety. you have all these groups fighting for romney. amazing quotes even in the new york times today from a leading republican foreign policy advocate saying basically, well, we don't know which one romney is. we'd like to say would the real mitt romney stand up. that's from his allies. there is no wonder we are confused about
foreign policy. there doesn't seem to be a lot of daylight on fundamental issues. >> this is an important point. actually mitt romney is a bigamistry to us when it comes to foreign policy. in part because republicans are at war amongst themselves. they are not just fighting with barack obama and democrats over what kind of foreign policy e they should have. on the one hand within romney's campaign you have neocon advisers who represent the soul and spirit of bush and cheney. you have tea...
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is that the the president's foreign policy is popul popular. allows the president to say the job is not done but where we've gone over the past four years we've had significant accomplishments from bin laden to yemen and other places and we're going to stay at it. i think that's going to be a compelling message that romney is going to be hard to overcome. >> indeed. p.j. crowley, thank you, sir, as always for your time and expertise. >> thanks, alex. >> coming up, the obama administration is certainly not the first to concern itself with political optics but before the proliferation of the 24 hour news cycle and rise of rapid response white houses had different ways of handling it. for example, the kennedy presidency. the newly released audiotapes from jfk's time in the oval office ahead on "now." so, we all set? i've got two tickets to paradise! pack your bags, we'll leave tonight. uhh, it's next month, actually... eddie continues singing: to tickets to... paradiiiiiise! no four. remember? whoooa whooaa whooo! you know ronny, folks who save hu
is that the the president's foreign policy is popul popular. allows the president to say the job is not done but where we've gone over the past four years we've had significant accomplishments from bin laden to yemen and other places and we're going to stay at it. i think that's going to be a compelling message that romney is going to be hard to overcome. >> indeed. p.j. crowley, thank you, sir, as always for your time and expertise. >> thanks, alex. >> coming up, the obama...
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on foreign affairs, you've got a failed foreign policy. yes, they've done more drone attacks, which is good. yes, osama bin laden is dead, which is good. but whether you deal with russia, china or throughout the broader middle east, you have a disaster. we saw that in the killing of the american ambassador in benghazi and a fundamental misunderstanding. >> i want to get to some other issues. i want to get to larger question, which is what is a romney foreign policy? what is going to be different about it than president bush's? less sort of the quote unquote freedom agenda? >> what you're going to have is a foreign policy that's been in the bipartson tradition of strength from kennedy and beyond. one that believes you need a strong economy. you need to have leadership. america's better off and the world is better off when america leads as "the washington post" editorial said today. there's a vacuum in syria. there's a vacuum in the middle east and forces unfriendly to the united states that have other interests. extremists are filling that
on foreign affairs, you've got a failed foreign policy. yes, they've done more drone attacks, which is good. yes, osama bin laden is dead, which is good. but whether you deal with russia, china or throughout the broader middle east, you have a disaster. we saw that in the killing of the american ambassador in benghazi and a fundamental misunderstanding. >> i want to get to some other issues. i want to get to larger question, which is what is a romney foreign policy? what is going to be...
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today mitt romney is set to deliver a major foreign policy address at the virginia military institute aiming to put pressure on president obama by portraying him as a weak and ineffective figure on the world stage. the 30-minute speech entitled the mantle of leadership will focus on a vision of peace through strength as in the tradition of harry truman and ronald regan. in prepared remarks released to the media the republican candidate is expected to address missteps in libya and talking about the deadly attack on bengha benghazi. he will say as president he would partner with other nations to help arm the rebels who are fighting assad's government. >>> on our relationship with egypt, romney will make the argument that u.s. aid should be tied to the egyptians upholding their peace treaty with israel. with growing tension over iran's nuclear program, mitt romney says he will not hesitate to put forces in the eastern mediterranean and the gulf region. the obama campaign is downplaying the speech describing romney over the weekend as, quote, an unmitigated disaster on foreign policy and
today mitt romney is set to deliver a major foreign policy address at the virginia military institute aiming to put pressure on president obama by portraying him as a weak and ineffective figure on the world stage. the 30-minute speech entitled the mantle of leadership will focus on a vision of peace through strength as in the tradition of harry truman and ronald regan. in prepared remarks released to the media the republican candidate is expected to address missteps in libya and talking about...
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how important is that in the big picture of foreign policy? >> well, at the moment, the peace process is dead and both men also talk about a two-state solution so again i'm not sure that it's one that will really differentiate the candidates. but it is true that mitt romney has a much stronger relationship with the prime minister of israel and there's almost open hostility between president obama and benjamin netanyahu. >> it does seem that often in campaigns that we talk about the lack of foreign policy experience for many of these candidates and the fact that unless you're someone who has served for a long time, for example, in the senate and you're on the, you know, foreign policy committee or something that that's not unusual. but we also look to who they look to for advice and today's "the new york times" david sanger talks about riffs in romney's foreign policy team. how important is it to look at the people who surround a candidate, especially a candidate like mitt romney who's not dealt in serious foreign policy issues either as govern
how important is that in the big picture of foreign policy? >> well, at the moment, the peace process is dead and both men also talk about a two-state solution so again i'm not sure that it's one that will really differentiate the candidates. but it is true that mitt romney has a much stronger relationship with the prime minister of israel and there's almost open hostility between president obama and benjamin netanyahu. >> it does seem that often in campaigns that we talk about the...
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does romney's foreign policy speech matter? does foreign policy matter? >> i think it does matter right now, because there's so much volatility around the world that it has called into question some of the policies that barack obama has put into place. to the extent that he can highlight that, i think mitt romney wants to do that. he wants to call into question the president's judgment on an area where he had a good lead, where the president has passed that commander in chief test in 2008 getting elected to the presidency. that's what he's trying to do. i think it's mostly about the economy. >> i'm going to agree with jonathan here. this is an election certainly about the economy. when they go into the voting booths on voting day, it's about the economy. i think romney has the opportunity here and needs to take it. to link obama's economic policies with his foreign policies, i don't think he should go after romney on the philosophical differences between his foreign policy and obama's. frankly, it's hard to figure out what obama's foreign policy philosoph
does romney's foreign policy speech matter? does foreign policy matter? >> i think it does matter right now, because there's so much volatility around the world that it has called into question some of the policies that barack obama has put into place. to the extent that he can highlight that, i think mitt romney wants to do that. he wants to call into question the president's judgment on an area where he had a good lead, where the president has passed that commander in chief test in 2008...
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these next debates are going to be focused on foreign policy. president obama at a significant advantage? >> yes. the president made a couple of core promises in 2008 that he is going to end the war in iraq, that he was going to focus resources on tracking down osama bin laden, and that he was going to change the way that we did foreign policy compared to president bush. and i think he has really delivered on all three things. that's going to be a conversation that i'm sure he is looking forward to having with the american people. >> perry? >> i'm sorry, go ahead. >> i would say yes. in some ways the president of the united states who is in office, particularly this one because of bin laden. >> all right. one more. >> i think he is going to have a big problem. he has a libya scandal that is brewing. iran has not stopped its nuclear weapons program. he has a problem with israel. i think he is going to be vulnerable. >> thanks, everybody. got to go. perry bacon jr., jennifer rubin, tara mcguinness. thank you. craig melvin will be back tomorrow at
these next debates are going to be focused on foreign policy. president obama at a significant advantage? >> yes. the president made a couple of core promises in 2008 that he is going to end the war in iraq, that he was going to focus resources on tracking down osama bin laden, and that he was going to change the way that we did foreign policy compared to president bush. and i think he has really delivered on all three things. that's going to be a conversation that i'm sure he is looking...
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he keeps promising a foreign policy speech. it's been a lot of speeches with no policy in them. the one thing he doesn't -- he's good at critiquing the president. the one thing he doesn't do is put out what he would do differently on any particular issue in foreign policy. so we welcome this debate. we would love to have it with mitt romney because i think the american people do see a real difference between these two men and that's why they keep siding with the president in terms of his ability to be the commander in chief. >> stephanie cutter, previewing the debate, good luck to your team tonight. >> thanks, andrea. >>> mitt romney, what is his battle plan? romney senior adviser and former senator jim talent joins us next. msnbc's prime time coverage of tonight's debate hosted by rachel maddow in new york and chris mathews in denver begins at 8:00 eastern after "hard ball." this is "andrea mitchell reports" live in denver only on msnbc. hey. hey eddie. i brought your stuff. you don't have to do this. yes i do. i want you to keep this. it'd be weird. take care. you too. [ sighs
he keeps promising a foreign policy speech. it's been a lot of speeches with no policy in them. the one thing he doesn't -- he's good at critiquing the president. the one thing he doesn't do is put out what he would do differently on any particular issue in foreign policy. so we welcome this debate. we would love to have it with mitt romney because i think the american people do see a real difference between these two men and that's why they keep siding with the president in terms of his...
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it's a collapse of our foreign policy. really what we're seeing -- >> you say a collapse of foreign policy. well, go ahead. finish your tlans and then i want to talk about that for a minute. >> sure. i think it's going to be a domestic policy debate. i'm sure romney's main message is going to be, look, it doesn't have to be this way, okay? we can create jobs, we can deal with the federal deficit, and, yes, we can have a foreign policy where we stabilize these parts of the world if we'll just act in the traditions of bipartisan foreign policy since world war ii. i think that's going to be his basic message. >> in the op-ed there was a phrase used, soft power. i guess what does that mean? what would they have done differently with libya? >> well, here's what should have happened. first, ideally you anticipate the arab spring. if you can't do that, when it happens you set forth a very clear vision of where the region ought to go, in the direction of a constitutional government. you actually get involved in these countries. yo
it's a collapse of our foreign policy. really what we're seeing -- >> you say a collapse of foreign policy. well, go ahead. finish your tlans and then i want to talk about that for a minute. >> sure. i think it's going to be a domestic policy debate. i'm sure romney's main message is going to be, look, it doesn't have to be this way, okay? we can create jobs, we can deal with the federal deficit, and, yes, we can have a foreign policy where we stabilize these parts of the world if...
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we're talking about foreign policy. >> yeah, but tone is a form of -- it's a part and parcel of foreign policy. if the demonstrators in egypt in tahrir square thought we were not on the side of the muk rab or one side or other, it has a dramatic impact what's going on on the ground there. that's what governor romney is talking about. there is an important in the tone of leadership to the table. >> i think chris and bob's faces say it all. let me get michael in on this one. michael, a lot of people say the daily gallup tracking poll. there's a close there. they blame the media for continues to talk about the president's gaffe and maybe "snl" for keeping the jokes alive about it. this week in los angeles the president discussed his performance slightly had in the debate, and he talked about the american people pushing him forward, the same that backed him in 2008. let me play what he said. >> everybody here is incredible policies, great friends, and they perform flawlessly night after night. i can't always say the same. >> all right. that's the president last night, michael. what do you m
we're talking about foreign policy. >> yeah, but tone is a form of -- it's a part and parcel of foreign policy. if the demonstrators in egypt in tahrir square thought we were not on the side of the muk rab or one side or other, it has a dramatic impact what's going on on the ground there. that's what governor romney is talking about. there is an important in the tone of leadership to the table. >> i think chris and bob's faces say it all. let me get michael in on this one. michael,...
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in one of the debates, foreign policy was huge. and there was a big narrative out there that president obama, you know, he couldn't take the 3:00 a.m. phone call, wasn't prepared, didn't have executive experience, wasn't ready to do foreign policy. president obama stood up in that debate, and i think it's one for the highlight reel. he said, if we have intelligence that osama bin laden is, you know, in pakistan and the pakistanis are unwilling or unable, we will do what we have to do. something to that effect. i mean, it was very effective. and so i think that president obama has a record in a debate. we know who he is. he means what he says. and i think that this is the failure of romney's campaign, throughout the entire narrative of this campaign, we've never been able to really know who this guy is. he has to play tonight. >> i think chris's point about emotional intelligence is really important. but i will say this. training can get people to places they haven't been before. when president obama began, everyone said he was too
in one of the debates, foreign policy was huge. and there was a big narrative out there that president obama, you know, he couldn't take the 3:00 a.m. phone call, wasn't prepared, didn't have executive experience, wasn't ready to do foreign policy. president obama stood up in that debate, and i think it's one for the highlight reel. he said, if we have intelligence that osama bin laden is, you know, in pakistan and the pakistanis are unwilling or unable, we will do what we have to do. something...
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they are applying that, they have applied that to foreign policy. never bothered to sit down and lay out a comprehensive and coherent foreign policy vision. what he's done, the krilts sism of obama he reacts to event bs, what romney does is react to obama's reaction to events. whatever obama's posture is he tries to maneuver into a position to say obama is weak, obama is jimmy carter about because when you're the republican it's 1979 the democratic president is always jimmy carter. the perfect example how he handled libya. when the libya thing started a year and a half ago, the first response from mitt romney, when obama agreed to the mission, the first response from mitt romney was, too late, and this isn't enough. he criticized him. weaknessp. he wouldn't address it. ducking reporters. then he starts warning couple months later, this mission, this is too broad. now mission creep. we're losing sight of what we need to be doing. he even starts suggesting do we even know if it's a good idea to be taking gadhafi out. then gadhafi is out. gadhafi's gon
they are applying that, they have applied that to foreign policy. never bothered to sit down and lay out a comprehensive and coherent foreign policy vision. what he's done, the krilts sism of obama he reacts to event bs, what romney does is react to obama's reaction to events. whatever obama's posture is he tries to maneuver into a position to say obama is weak, obama is jimmy carter about because when you're the republican it's 1979 the democratic president is always jimmy carter. the perfect...
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but foreign policy is looming large in this campaign. i want to turn to my colleague and our chief foreign current, richard engel live in kabul this morning where there is news beyond the libya crisis. richard i know as you've been covering the warn in afghanistan over the years. there are now 50-plus attacks, insider attacks that have killed american and other coalition forces. what's the latest you could tell us on the latest attack? >>. >> there's been another attack, it took place yesterday, but word of the insider attack is just coming to us today. in this attack, there was an american army checkpoint, a vehicle control point. and two afghan soldiers came up, they were speaking to the americans at this checkpoint and then suddenly, one of these afghan soldiers pulled out a weapon, opened fire. killed one american soldier. killed another american contractor and other americans in the area opened fire, killing at least three of the afghans. and this is a major problem, according to statistics. at least 20% of all u.s. combat deaths th
but foreign policy is looming large in this campaign. i want to turn to my colleague and our chief foreign current, richard engel live in kabul this morning where there is news beyond the libya crisis. richard i know as you've been covering the warn in afghanistan over the years. there are now 50-plus attacks, insider attacks that have killed american and other coalition forces. what's the latest you could tell us on the latest attack? >>. >> there's been another attack, it took...
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of course, he had the foreign policy trip. he's obviously trying to make headway around this libya issue, which, in fact, if you read a lot of the reports coming out about the administration's handling of this, he has a real case to press against this administration in terms of the shifting reasons that the libya thing actually happened. so i think he's really going to talk not only about american exceptionalism, but also talk about america being a leader in the world and make the case that obama has not led, not been a strong leader on iran, on the middle east, the arab spring. that's what he'll do. i think the question is whether or not he has the credibility to step into what some might say is, in fact, a foreign policy gap when it comes from this administration. >> i mean, you've got a president here, of course, obviously, the successful raid that killed osama bin laden, winding down the war in afghanistan, ending the war in iraq. is this an area where governor romney feels like he has a leg to stand on? >> i think he's go
of course, he had the foreign policy trip. he's obviously trying to make headway around this libya issue, which, in fact, if you read a lot of the reports coming out about the administration's handling of this, he has a real case to press against this administration in terms of the shifting reasons that the libya thing actually happened. so i think he's really going to talk not only about american exceptionalism, but also talk about america being a leader in the world and make the case that...
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i mean, the speech today by mitt romney about foreign policy was a joke. it has been already panned by so many who actually know what they're talking about. this is the same guy who couldn't even go to the olympics in london and do that right insulting our good friends and our great partner in the uk. so let's talk about the substance of what it takes to run the united states of america, the most powerful country in the world, and not about, you know, style points at a debate. this is a real job here, and you have to be focused and know what in the world you're doing. >> so your criticizing us for criticizing the campaign debate? okay. let's move on. >> i think the american public wants to hear about the candidates. >> i agree with your main point. let's go back, the obama campaign released this ad over the weekend going after romney's plan on taxes. let's watch the campaign ad that was put out. >> this was dishonest. >> i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. >> romney is being dishonest here, too. >> i a cording to an independent nonport stan study, b
i mean, the speech today by mitt romney about foreign policy was a joke. it has been already panned by so many who actually know what they're talking about. this is the same guy who couldn't even go to the olympics in london and do that right insulting our good friends and our great partner in the uk. so let's talk about the substance of what it takes to run the united states of america, the most powerful country in the world, and not about, you know, style points at a debate. this is a real...
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policy, which is hands down much more popular than any recent president in time, that foreign policy is not being effective and the president has a clear advantage in the campaign on this issue. >> sw joel ruben thank you for your time. thank you. >> the supreme court begins a new term today and it tops our look at stories around the news nation. the nation's highest court is taking on the high profile issues among them affirmative action in school admissions process, the voting rights act of 1965 and federal recognition of same-sex marriage. next week the supreme court is expected to hear arguments on the affirmative action case which is based on a texas student's claim that she was denied admission to the university of texas because she's white. and police in tennessee are searching for two missing children, a 9-year-old and her 7-year-old brother. both children mysteriously vanished after their grandparents home was burned to the ground south of nashville last sunday. they were originally presumed dead in the fire. police issued an amber alert. no leads. >>> and our "news nation"
policy, which is hands down much more popular than any recent president in time, that foreign policy is not being effective and the president has a clear advantage in the campaign on this issue. >> sw joel ruben thank you for your time. thank you. >> the supreme court begins a new term today and it tops our look at stories around the news nation. the nation's highest court is taking on the high profile issues among them affirmative action in school admissions process, the voting...
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starting with foreign policy. we'll be right back. vest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. >>> welcome back to "hardball." last night was a tough night for the president, of course, but there's another story to be told about mitt romney's performance, which relied on fuzzy math. vague policy prescriptions and statements that strained the truth. i'm being nice here. he denied his tax plan would cost $5 trillion. denied it. independent economists say it's the case. "the new york times" editorial today, they got out overnight, says the following, virtually every time mr. romney spoke, he misrepresented the platform on which he and paul ryan are actually running. that's quite a statement. and a new york magazine jonathan challenged romney over his economic plan that se
starting with foreign policy. we'll be right back. vest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. >>> welcome back to "hardball." last night was a tough night for the president, of course, but there's another story to be told about...
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americans don't care as much in the polls about foreign policy. but several weeks later after this, i think it's very legitimate now that the press is going in and a couple of weeks have passed since the ambassador's death, now, yes. i mean, he's got a responsibility to talk about how badly the white house bungled this. >> i think he does. and indeed, you know, i think right now, the focus is a little misplaced. the notion that -- i think the white house is pretty credible in saying that they're learning more, that their initial instiblgt -- they didn't know the situation was initially, that they've explained it better as they've done intelligence assessments, but it raises the more fundamental question which is why was the consulate not secure? how was it that security issues, as opposed to their stories afterward, these are american lives at stake in an unstable region, what are the intelligence failures? what were the security failures? those are fundamental questions. >> there were intelligence failu failures, there were warnings, mark halperi
americans don't care as much in the polls about foreign policy. but several weeks later after this, i think it's very legitimate now that the press is going in and a couple of weeks have passed since the ambassador's death, now, yes. i mean, he's got a responsibility to talk about how badly the white house bungled this. >> i think he does. and indeed, you know, i think right now, the focus is a little misplaced. the notion that -- i think the white house is pretty credible in saying that...
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they've tried to hang onto the economy and foreign policy. they don't -- they're not able to hang onto anything except, of course, for this stereotype that he keeps reinforcing as the rich, out of touch guy. i think going into the debate, like that's his biggest hurdle is to not say anything else that really grounds that stereotype and grounds that image that the american people have for him. >> so no mention of the 47%? anna marie cog and jonathan capehart, thank you, both. >>> next, do the math, mr. ryan. please, just do the math. stay with us. >> lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works, and you can -- >> but i have to -- >> let me -- >> you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too lock to go through all of the math. that was me still taking insulin with a vial and syringe. me, explaining what i was doing at breakfast. and me discovering novolog mix 70/30 flexpen. flexpen is pre-filled with your pre-mix insulin. dial the exact dose. inject by pushing a button. no vials, syringes or cooler
they've tried to hang onto the economy and foreign policy. they don't -- they're not able to hang onto anything except, of course, for this stereotype that he keeps reinforcing as the rich, out of touch guy. i think going into the debate, like that's his biggest hurdle is to not say anything else that really grounds that stereotype and grounds that image that the american people have for him. >> so no mention of the 47%? anna marie cog and jonathan capehart, thank you, both. >>>...
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. >> let me ask you about a foreign policy. we're having a lot of problems in afghanistan. vice president biden had a plan to switch from a counter insurgency plan and go toll an anti terrorism strategy. that limits our casualties and focuses on al qaeda. why didn't you do that, mr. president? it would have saved a lot of lives. >> that overstates the president's position. he's a very sophisticated analyst of that region. i'm filibustering here. but, then, if i were president obama i would say, look, the vice president and i agree that when we came to office, we were losing a war. we were losing it badly and losing it in a way that would have been catastrophic for the region and would have made americans less safe. so i increased the troop presence there, stabilized the situation, got to a point where we would be able to withdraw. >> was biden right? >> biden was one of our advisers. he had input on our decision and -- >> in the fight over whether the fight in afghanistan and fighting a counter-insurgency campaign, were you wrong and was your vice president right? >> vice p
. >> let me ask you about a foreign policy. we're having a lot of problems in afghanistan. vice president biden had a plan to switch from a counter insurgency plan and go toll an anti terrorism strategy. that limits our casualties and focuses on al qaeda. why didn't you do that, mr. president? it would have saved a lot of lives. >> that overstates the president's position. he's a very sophisticated analyst of that region. i'm filibustering here. but, then, if i were president obama...
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starting with foreign policy. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] if you had a dollar for every dollar car insurance companies say they'll save you by switching, you'd have like, a ton of dollars. but how are they saving you those dollars? a lot of companies might answer "um" or, "no comment." then there's esurance. born online, raised by technology, and majors in efficiency. so whatever they save, you save. hassle, time, paperwork, hair-tearing-out, and yes, especially dollars. esurance. insurance for the modern world. click or call. >>> welcome back to "hardball." last night was a tough night for the president, of course, but there's another story to be told about mitt romney's performance, which relied on fuzzy math. vague policy prescriptions and statements that strained the truth. i'm being nice here. he denied his tax plan would cost $5 trillion. denied it. independent economists say it's the case. "the new york times" editorial today, they got out overnight, says the following, virtually every time mr.
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peter, real quickly though, governor romney is going to be giving a big foreign policy speech coming up after the weekend? >> reporter: that's scheduled to take place on monday back here fittingly in virginia. it will be at vmi on monday. it's an opportunity to attack the president again and dominate romney's readiness to lead. this is something they were prepared to talk about at the debate, supposed to be a debate about domestic issues. they thought there was a potential during the final 15 to 20 minutes when the conversation turned to the role of governing for mitt romney to perhaps be able to attack the president's mishandling in their view of foreign policy issues. since that didn't take place they hope to make that point this coming monday. >> peter alexander traveling with the romney camp in virginia. peter, thank you. >>> two days after the first presidential debates and democrats are still having this bit of a hangover as republicans try to continue seizing on wednesday night's momentum. it was a big night for mitt romney, but will that first face-off really affect how undec
peter, real quickly though, governor romney is going to be giving a big foreign policy speech coming up after the weekend? >> reporter: that's scheduled to take place on monday back here fittingly in virginia. it will be at vmi on monday. it's an opportunity to attack the president again and dominate romney's readiness to lead. this is something they were prepared to talk about at the debate, supposed to be a debate about domestic issues. they thought there was a potential during the...
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>>> foreign policy showdown. mitt romney gets serious about libya, syria, and more, but president obama hits him hard with a brand-new ad. we'll show it to you. >>> winter weather now. many parts of the country will make up this morning to an arctic blast from the north. bill's forecast is straight ahead. >>> and 48 straight. drew breezes into the record books. this is a big one. >>> very good morning to you. i'm veronica de la cruz. this is "first look" on msnbc. 29 days and counting. there is less than a month to go in the race for the white house, and right now, both candidates are on the road. while the president campaigns in california, mitt romney spent sunday in florida before his major foreign policy speech in virginia today. nbc's tracie pots has more in washington. tracie, good morning to you. >> reporter: hi, veronica, good morning. even with those jobs numbers that came out friday helping president obama, we are still seeing mitt romney with a boost after the debate, and today he will argue that under
>>> foreign policy showdown. mitt romney gets serious about libya, syria, and more, but president obama hits him hard with a brand-new ad. we'll show it to you. >>> winter weather now. many parts of the country will make up this morning to an arctic blast from the north. bill's forecast is straight ahead. >>> and 48 straight. drew breezes into the record books. this is a big one. >>> very good morning to you. i'm veronica de la cruz. this is "first...
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giulia giuliani. >> i've got to ask about your candidate's foreign policy address. that's happening today. >> today, virginia military institute. >> i'm looking at some of the previews of the speech. >> which he loves. >> i don't. he's going there on benghazi, talking about iran. does he really need to do this? >> yes, does. >> let me respond to that, you know. what he has done over the last couple weeks is tried, in working on the speech, is to try to step back and look at events in recent weeks and years. iran closer to a nuclear bomb than it has ever been before. syria in chaos. you know, lots of tumult throughout the middle east. the arab spring turning into some sort of dark winter. and he's taking a step back and looking -- this is the world we live in. the president likes to talk about a pivot to asia. the middle east is really unsettling, unraveling. and let's take a look at how we got here and where we go from here. he says explicitly in the speech as it relates to benghazi that the only people responsible for the attack on our consulate in benghazi are the
giulia giuliani. >> i've got to ask about your candidate's foreign policy address. that's happening today. >> today, virginia military institute. >> i'm looking at some of the previews of the speech. >> which he loves. >> i don't. he's going there on benghazi, talking about iran. does he really need to do this? >> yes, does. >> let me respond to that, you know. what he has done over the last couple weeks is tried, in working on the speech, is to try to...
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i think foreign policy matters. clearly look, an op-ed and then paul ryan saying what he said with laura engram is not by accident. it's purposeful. i think they wind up coming back to the economy. >> that is the subject of the debate unless they go off topic. chris cizilla, see you later. thank you so much. >>> and foreign policy is, of course, a crushing issue for all of those with soldiers deployed and their families at home and three more americans among the dead after a suicide bomber attacked a military patrol today in khost, afghanistan. the bomber struck a group of afghan police and u.s. troops as they walked through a market. the taliban claimed responsibility. nbc's lester holt is in kabul where he's been reporting for the past week and a half as part of a special nbc news series on region and conflict. lester, you have been on the ground, what is your take away on the green on blue attacks and this suicide attack which is different, at least the taliban taking responsibility? >> well, andrea, it's really
i think foreign policy matters. clearly look, an op-ed and then paul ryan saying what he said with laura engram is not by accident. it's purposeful. i think they wind up coming back to the economy. >> that is the subject of the debate unless they go off topic. chris cizilla, see you later. thank you so much. >>> and foreign policy is, of course, a crushing issue for all of those with soldiers deployed and their families at home and three more americans among the dead after a...
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romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy. >> i expect to be able to describe that in a way people will understand, and if they do, i get elected. >> reporter: his running mate, paul ryan, is already preparing for his own debate a week away. >> i really believe in the policies that we're providing, we're pursuing. and at the end of the day, i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> reporter: and if you can't control what actually happens in the debate, you certainly control what happens afterwards. the spin already in the planning. ryan's going to be with romney in virginia. the president is staying in colorado for a rally there. veronica? >> tracie, we appreciate it. thank you. >>> nato forces in afghanistan say three international service members and their translator were killed in a suicide bombing in the eastern part of the country this morning. this as the war in afghanistan reached a grim milestone sunday with a death of the 2,000th u.s. se
romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy. >> i expect to be able to describe that in a way people will understand, and if they do, i get elected. >> reporter: his running mate, paul ryan, is already preparing for his own debate a week away. >> i really believe in the policies that we're providing, we're pursuing. and at the end of the day, i'm just going to go in there and be me. >>...
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>> foreign policy. if you said a couple years ago i'd sit here saying the democratic candidate's strong suit is foreign policy, that would take me by surprise. >> the first debate is domestic policy. >> you're absolutely right. i would stick with the jobs numbers and talk about how we're not where we want to be relatively to 100 thousand plus being gained per month but it's better than an 800,000 job loss. people need to be reminded of the numbers. >> and romney's weapons? >> romney's weapon is still that executive card. bain and all, he has to say i've gotten it done in business. i know the liabilities attached to the profile, tamron, but that's the bed he chose and he has to have a private sector-like fix for the economy. >> no time limits on answers, moderator's discretion, domestic policy, at least 90 minutes devoted to the economy. we're going to talk about a new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll that looks at this debate. do you buy what chris christie said yesterday, this is a game-changer come
>> foreign policy. if you said a couple years ago i'd sit here saying the democratic candidate's strong suit is foreign policy, that would take me by surprise. >> the first debate is domestic policy. >> you're absolutely right. i would stick with the jobs numbers and talk about how we're not where we want to be relatively to 100 thousand plus being gained per month but it's better than an 800,000 job loss. people need to be reminded of the numbers. >> and romney's...
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the campaign says romney will give a major foreign policy speech this week. romney is taking his message to the air waves. >> i think they want to do their best to keep the people of america from understanding exactly what happened. we expect candor, we expect transparency, particularly to terrorism. >> it's hard to understand how mitt romney thinks this strategy is going to work. romney was hammered for his initial response to the attack in the middle east. he blamed the president for sympathizing with protesters. romney is a 14-point disadvantage for terrorist issues. romney can't pick a strategy and stick with it. the campaign, they used to be all about jobs. the romney slogan was obama isn't working. but then all of a sudden, the campaign was about obamacare and the slogan was "repeal and replace." that didn't work so romney moved on to "we did build that." republicans spent a night at their own convention talking about the new strategy, but that didn't work either. so recently they went with "are you better off." but now they are abandoning it for nation
the campaign says romney will give a major foreign policy speech this week. romney is taking his message to the air waves. >> i think they want to do their best to keep the people of america from understanding exactly what happened. we expect candor, we expect transparency, particularly to terrorism. >> it's hard to understand how mitt romney thinks this strategy is going to work. romney was hammered for his initial response to the attack in the middle east. he blamed the president...
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policy as it relates to the arab spring. i think if the governor wants to, he can use this format, which is open ended on the economy, talk about the economy, but also about american strength and how that can or will be affected in the future economically. so i wouldn't be surprised at all if what you saw in that op-ed that governor romney wrote for the "wall street journal" doesn't become part of a response to a larnler conversation about not just economics in america, but the economic projection, the values projection and foreign policy pro jex. >> let me ask you about the deb krzyzewskied. it's going to be six segments. the moderator has some ability to let it go and bring the conversation more broadly. breathe more than we've seen in the past. does that favor one person or the other? >> no, i don't think so. i think as you know, who goes first was determined by coin flip and there's a slight advantage of having your opponent go first. in the opening, romney won the coin toss because president obama goes first and that me
policy as it relates to the arab spring. i think if the governor wants to, he can use this format, which is open ended on the economy, talk about the economy, but also about american strength and how that can or will be affected in the future economically. so i wouldn't be surprised at all if what you saw in that op-ed that governor romney wrote for the "wall street journal" doesn't become part of a response to a larnler conversation about not just economics in america, but the...
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policy and national security. and he has proven adept at walking the tight rope at great heights by refusing to take a stand on any issue of any substance at any time this entire campaign cycle. the problem with this clown show is that while it's been entertaining, the ticket price is also very high. as the gop verges on going from grand old party to tired old side show americans are denied a functioning two-party system, a robust debate that is at the very heart of our democracy. so, governor romney, kindly set aside the youtube clips, the you didn't build thats, and the conservative dog whistles that guess what all of us can hear, put up a good fight, an honest fight, in the end politics may still be a circus, but the country deserves more than just peanuts. thanks again to kurt, richard, karen and michael. that is all for now. i will see you back here tomorrow for post-debate analysis at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific when joined by savannah guthrie, former governor ed rendell, professorer michael eric dyson a
policy and national security. and he has proven adept at walking the tight rope at great heights by refusing to take a stand on any issue of any substance at any time this entire campaign cycle. the problem with this clown show is that while it's been entertaining, the ticket price is also very high. as the gop verges on going from grand old party to tired old side show americans are denied a functioning two-party system, a robust debate that is at the very heart of our democracy. so, governor...
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. >>> we begin with stories from overseas where foreign policy is coming out as the central topic in the election with much of the recent focus on the attack on bengahzi, libya. romney advisers are split on how broadly they should hit the president over his handling of the attack and why it took so long to acknowledge it was an act of terrorism. some romney advisers to keep the focus on the economy, some are saying romney should have a major foreign policy speech days after the debate. over the weekend, the white house was on the defensive after the friday's announcement that the deadly assault on the u.s. consulate in bengahzi was deliberate and organized. peter king of new york called on susan rice to resign as u.s. ambassador to the united nations after she initially claimed the attack on the consulate was part of the spontaneous protest after an anti-islamic video. yesterday paul ryan and john mccain slammed the administration's handling of the deadly attack. >> the response was slow, confused, inconsistent. they first said it was a youtube video and a spontaneous mob. we now kno
. >>> we begin with stories from overseas where foreign policy is coming out as the central topic in the election with much of the recent focus on the attack on bengahzi, libya. romney advisers are split on how broadly they should hit the president over his handling of the attack and why it took so long to acknowledge it was an act of terrorism. some romney advisers to keep the focus on the economy, some are saying romney should have a major foreign policy speech days after the debate....
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policy every time he dipped his toe in the foreign policy area. that's coming from jen psaki. a zinger there. recent polls show that romney closing the gap. should it be a wake-up call for the president, the campaign that mitt romney thinks that the fight over foreign policy is one he's willing to take on? >> you know, i think we'll have to wait and see what governor romney says before we determine that. foreign policy, there's a lot to say that sounds great in rhetoric and platitudes and hearing plenty of governor romney and really about the approach and the policy and just in the previews i have heard a lot of the rhetoric is a little bit different but the underlying policies are very similar. i mean, the kinds of things i think the governor will recommend sound like things that are already happening and continuously hearing governor talk he doesn't seem to understand or speak to, you know, with china. it is not just currency manipulation and trade to worry about or deal with china on. it's also china involved in what's happening in the middle e
policy every time he dipped his toe in the foreign policy area. that's coming from jen psaki. a zinger there. recent polls show that romney closing the gap. should it be a wake-up call for the president, the campaign that mitt romney thinks that the fight over foreign policy is one he's willing to take on? >> you know, i think we'll have to wait and see what governor romney says before we determine that. foreign policy, there's a lot to say that sounds great in rhetoric and platitudes and...
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that is tomorrow at the virginia institute, he will give a speech on foreign policy, trying to attack the president's policies overseas as being soft overseas. he will try to project the image of strength and once again sort of cast himself as a man who is ready to lead america. >> okay, thanks once again, peter alexander, contributing. >>> and at the washington post, ladies, good day to both of you. >> good morning. >> so to both of you, we are 30 days out. i want to get a general assessment from each of you as to where we are in this election. eleanor, you go first. >> well, i think mitt romney revived his campaign, he was on the verge of being discounted. and his donors were going to move their money to senate races and house races. and so his campaign is obviously revived. i think he thinks he can win, and his supporters think he can win. i think he is still the underdog when you look at the key states, the president still maintains an edge. we have not really seen how the polls will bounce, after the debate and whether the president has lost ground, say, in ohio. but i think that
that is tomorrow at the virginia institute, he will give a speech on foreign policy, trying to attack the president's policies overseas as being soft overseas. he will try to project the image of strength and once again sort of cast himself as a man who is ready to lead america. >> okay, thanks once again, peter alexander, contributing. >>> and at the washington post, ladies, good day to both of you. >> good morning. >> so to both of you, we are 30 days out. i want to...
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here's what he said slamming the president on foreign policy. by failing to maintain the elements of our influence and stepping away from our alleys, president obama has heightened the prospect of conflict and instability. he does not understand an american policy that lacks resolve can provoke aggression. the arab spring presented an opportunity to help move millions of people from oppression to freedom, but it also presented grave risks. we needed a strategy for success, but the president offered none. and now he seeks to down play the significance of the calamities of the past few weeks. steve, does he have a point? >> no. what's the old saying? that dog won't hunt. i don't think you can criticize barack obama on his foreign policy achievements. it's a tough world out there. it's complicated. things don't always happen the way we want them to, but they have done a terrific job of handling very difficult situations. they killed osama bin laden. i think they have a record to stand on that the president can proudly go to the debates and argue wi
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i think it's hard to argue that a foreign policy event coming this late in the campaign is going to trump the white house. >> we want to go to some early voting nowing going with you and the dnc, kicked off their early voting bus tour in iowa. ohio residents, they can start early voting day after tomorrow in ohio. it seems like the democrats have an early ground game this morning. >> it seems that republicans on election day, it could be as much as 40% of the electorate that weighs in before actually election day. it's one of the interesting parts of this campaign is figuring out if it's going to change the message, if it's going to change the message of the campaign. it's going to be more states and more people than it has been, in both absen tent and voting than it has been -- >> i do want to take a look at your latest article which is titled, if obama wins, what changes for a second term? what are your conclusions? >> there will be wholesale change, all of the cabinet will be gone, much of the white house staff and so the president will have an opportunity really for a fresh start. the
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single digit on health care, being a good commander in chief, foreign policy and taxes. of all of those qualities, the two that would concern you the most if you were mitt romney? >> the one you didn't mention is mitt romney is ahead on changing washington, d.c. and the economy. you have to look at what is putting mitt romney in the ballpark. in washington, d.c. we spent two weeks talking about the romney campaign troubles. our poll was one of five released monday or tuesday where likely voters showed romney stronger than two weeks ago. so at some point the narrative has to change of wow, look what happened. romney didn't get weaker. he has gotten stronger. it isn't just our poll it is one of five national surveys in two days that says it is a margin of error campaign. >> i know. i was going to do the romney qualities. i wanted to do the obama qualities with you. i was going to ask you the taxes issue. having the democrat lead on taxes can't be good for a republican. >> we had the second cycle in a row where obama's run and tried to neutralize a tax advantage. again, par
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tough on foreign policy. even his hairline is receding. >> that's good. >> that's good. >> yeah, no. it's amazing to me when you look at these and you see this, it can be funnier not in presidential debates, senate races, house races, where they show up and try too hard and often you find that's their undoing. >> i was going to say, i think we have adequately demonstrated that maybe the zinger strategy not going to work. >> not good. >> not presidential. >> we'll just say, wow, he was surprisingly sober and presidential. >> at least now we'll all be looking for the zingers during the debate. >> best zingers don't appear as though they are zingers written and canned months ago. there you go again. they seem very smooth. >> reagan in '84 had that line they work eed on when he blanke out in the first debate. they said you're 73 years old, are you really up to the job. he said i do not think age should be an issue in this campaign. i will not exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >>
tough on foreign policy. even his hairline is receding. >> that's good. >> that's good. >> yeah, no. it's amazing to me when you look at these and you see this, it can be funnier not in presidential debates, senate races, house races, where they show up and try too hard and often you find that's their undoing. >> i was going to say, i think we have adequately demonstrated that maybe the zinger strategy not going to work. >> not good. >> not presidential....
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but foreign policy is something that's critically important given the current state of foreign policy where we have a leader now whose foreign policy has made us weak in the eye of the rest of the world whereas governor romney believe in peace through strength. >> all right. let's talk about the expectations here, karen. the game from both sides has kicked into high gear over the weekend. i want to remind everybody. take a listen. >> president obama's a very, he's a very gifted speaker. he's an experienced debater. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> we'd expected all along governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any other candidate in history. >> and i think for us to raise the expectations, he's got to do something spectacular. those things don't happen in debates anymore that there's a spectacular event or gaffe. they're too well rehearsed. >> in this week's debate president obama has a great deal to lose. romney's is the most difficult position. obama's is the most dangerous. does the president here
but foreign policy is something that's critically important given the current state of foreign policy where we have a leader now whose foreign policy has made us weak in the eye of the rest of the world whereas governor romney believe in peace through strength. >> all right. let's talk about the expectations here, karen. the game from both sides has kicked into high gear over the weekend. i want to remind everybody. take a listen. >> president obama's a very, he's a very gifted...
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. >> you can disagree with what he's doing on these things whether foreign policy or domestic but he's not lazy or disengaged. we're overlooking the simple fact obama is not that good a debater. he wasn't that great a debater in the democratic primary. he did fine against john mccain but it wasn't acceptable. last night he clearly lost. one thing i'm hearing from democratic sources is he didn't end up with one of those moments that's going to haunt him. >> no, i don't think so. he doesn't lose any supporters and he certainly recovers from this, but we can't have any more like that. i say that. sam stein, e.j. dionne, great to have you with us tonight. >>> next, we debunk romney's $5 trillion tax lie with david k. johnston. stay with us. >>> mitt romney tried hard last night to make up ground with middle class voters. he put on quite a dog and pony show. tonight we'll remind you who the real mitt romney is with teamster's president james hoffa. stay with us. >>> first of all, i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cut. let me repeat what i said. i'm no
. >> you can disagree with what he's doing on these things whether foreign policy or domestic but he's not lazy or disengaged. we're overlooking the simple fact obama is not that good a debater. he wasn't that great a debater in the democratic primary. he did fine against john mccain but it wasn't acceptable. last night he clearly lost. one thing i'm hearing from democratic sources is he didn't end up with one of those moments that's going to haunt him. >> no, i don't think so. he...
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for example you have economic crises and foreign policy crises. if you play poker, you're used to playing your hand well. you catch a lucky card or you play bad and catch the card of your life. you used to think about improbability. you are calmer when you watch the he ebb and flow of polls an political news. >> you talk about weather forecasting has improved over the years, and the glitch that sort of caused the ibm computer to beat gary in the 1997 chess game. what are the worst at predicting? what do we get wrong more than anything else? >> in general the field of economic prediction is a pretty bad example. for example, in december of 2007, most people in the "wall street journal's" forecasting panel, 45 distinguished economists said we would not go into a recession over the next year. in fact, it turned out we were already in recession by december 2007. it was later revealed through the data. when we're in a recession we don't know it half the time and can't predict the macro economy more than six months in advance. you had all kinds of probl
for example you have economic crises and foreign policy crises. if you play poker, you're used to playing your hand well. you catch a lucky card or you play bad and catch the card of your life. you used to think about improbability. you are calmer when you watch the he ebb and flow of polls an political news. >> you talk about weather forecasting has improved over the years, and the glitch that sort of caused the ibm computer to beat gary in the 1997 chess game. what are the worst at...